Blondie,
Remember a sister cannot keep her maiden name and if she has/does, the brothers will still call on her, "Sister Husbandslastname."
The only story I ever heard on this topic was a case where a woman got married and kept her name, the elders of course were in a tizzy, so they called Bethel and asked what to do. They were told to leave her alone and that it was none of their business.
Just a story, not sure where I heard it or if there is any truth to it.
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i've got the conversation my 'laywer' jason had with the head of my appeal hearing ghram, he refues to answer any questions about the recorder being tampered with, but denies that anyone named 'sean' was at the meeting, then later he talks about talking to 'sean' at the meeting!.
this guy is so desprate to cover his own ass.
btw, i will testify that the bag was closed when i was in the room before i left and that it was open after i got back.
Ok I now have listened to the recording(as much of it as was audible) and I am more amazed at how foolish it is.
Your friend "Jason" claims to be calling as a member of some legal firm, but he refuses to give his last name! I'm surprised the elder talked to him as long as he did.
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i've got the conversation my 'laywer' jason had with the head of my appeal hearing ghram, he refues to answer any questions about the recorder being tampered with, but denies that anyone named 'sean' was at the meeting, then later he talks about talking to 'sean' at the meeting!.
this guy is so desprate to cover his own ass.
btw, i will testify that the bag was closed when i was in the room before i left and that it was open after i got back.
You all sound like a bunch of third graders.
What exactly are you trying to accomplish with all this? Getting part of a JC meeting on tape? Besides the fact that its already been done, what is the point?
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the outrage!!!.
made-up creature?????
i am besideds myself in outrage!!!
Why such intolerance???????
We claim to be a country based on freedom of religion, and yet this poor teacher is persecuted for simply displaying a representation of his faith.
I think its clear that Pastafarians are under attack in this country. Don't expect any sympathy from the mainstream media. I'm surprised the paper there bothered to cover it at all. They clearly show their anti-FSM bias, referring to FSM as being "created" by Bobby Henderson. Hello????
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our good friend dan sydlik died today about 2 pm eastern time.
he was the last of the moderating forces on the gb.
lately he has had little influence among the ted (aka the boss) jaracz (head of the bethel cia - the service department) henchmen and loyalists.
He had a choice, just like Ray Franz, he could have quit if he had a true lamenting human conscience.
Ok, I'm not sure that's a fair comparision, and Ray did not 'quit', he was forced out and then DFd.
We all make choices, and we are all responsible for our decisions. Its very easy to condemn the leaders of the Borg for their deceptive practices, and rightly so. But we all at one point or another decided to live by their crazy rules. I have yet to see someone forcibly immersed at a JW baptism.
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imagine!
they have lost 2 in the past couple months.
they say things happen in three's.
Thanks for the totally misleading topic title, it almost distracted me from the real news about Sydlik.
Sheesh.
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this information is posted at www.freeminds.org under watchtower news:.
http://www.randytv.com/secret/wtandwho.htm.
scroll half-way down until you see the heading "watchtower still has 2 ngos!.
The Watchtower is by definition, an NGO. That was never the issue. They are an organization, they are not part of a government: a Non-Government Organization. The issue was that they registered with the U.N. as an associate, which involved supporting the goals of the U.N. And the fact that they condemned other religious groups for this while they themselves did it.
I don't see anything here about them being officially associated with the UN, although they do seem mighty cozy with these worldly organizations.
this is a simply question that came to me as i sit here reading all the various topics and their responses and i my mind often takes me back to a question that came to me some time ago.
simply put; why have jw's continued to have children .
.since the beginning - 1912,1918,1925 and so on if the end was coming in their lifetime .
There's some truth to this. I knew so many dubs that said their kids were "accidents". After they had 2 or 3 of these "accidents" I began to wonder whether they really understood how pregnancy takes place.
A much more likely scenario is that JWs refer to the births as "accidents" because they know what the official WT stance on childbearing is, that it is very much discouraged. No loyal JW is going to say, yeah we decided we wanted kids, so we ignored the faithful slaves "counsel" on this matter! They have to say, 'oops! we had an accident, guess we can no longer pioneer."
I think most of those "accidents" were not so accidental.
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this is a simply question that came to me as i sit here reading all the various topics and their responses and i my mind often takes me back to a question that came to me some time ago.
simply put; why have jw's continued to have children .
.since the beginning - 1912,1918,1925 and so on if the end was coming in their lifetime .
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hi, especially so to the watchtower posers whom i hope are capable of reading this as they gnash their teeth and their eyes go wild with fear.
the more the watchtower posers say to be quiet, act "delicate," or forget it and the more they try to laugh it off, the more other people become fired up to expose them.
it was easy to predict that what richie has put on the internet and that has now gone earthwide would occur.
The only way it would be somewhat admissable is if you had a couple elders/ex-elders who could get on a stand and say, "yes, this is my copy of the elders manual, and yes these notes written here were written by me as I was told to do so at KM school on <date, place>."
Then of course, for each of these elders, who ideally are from different parts of the country/don't know each other, get another elder who was also at the school on the stand, make him open up his copy of the elder manual, see what is written there. Good luck getting this second elder to a)admit he was at the school, b) present his elders manual for inspection c) even get on the witness stand.
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